This segment is known as the Tri-County Parkway—the latest name for the same road that has been rejected by the public every few years since the 1960s, sometimes called the Western Bypass.This outer beltway would destroy the historic landscape on the western boundary of Manassas Battlefield—in the very year we are honoring the 150th anniversary of the First Battle of Manassas. Furthermore, this highway would not solve our traffic problems—it would actually make them worse.If you live in Virginia, please email Secretary of Transportation Sean Connaughton and the CTB today telling them you oppose the Tri-County Parkway.If you take action today, we can also let your legislators know ASAP—their session ends tomorrow! The bait and switchIn public, the Governor has offered a list of some 900 road projects that might be funded by the new debt. Then, off the radar screen from the legislature, the media, and the public the administration is maneuvering the revival and addition of one of the most controversial highways in the state. The public list played a key role in getting Delegates and Senators—who face reelection this year—to sign off on the risky borrowing)But during last week’s CTB meeting, the Secretary of Transportation brought up an issue not on the published agenda, asking two of the CTB members, Gary Garzynski and Doug Koelemay, if they had a resolution to offer. This list does not include the controversial outer beltway project around DC. After describing a new highway connection that follows the route of the proposed TriCounty Parkway/Western Bypass, they said that the resolution was not quite ready yet, but that they hoped it would be by the next CTB meeting in March.Secretary Connaughton, who used to Chair the Prince William Board of Supervisors, then said, “You guys would never make it on the Prince William County Board of Supervisors; we live for bushwhacking people.”Bushwhacked (ambushed) is exactly how we feel. In fact, the inclusion of the Western Bypass and other outer loop roads was a key factor in the public’s strong rejection of the Northern Virginia sales tax increase in the public referendum of 2002.More traffic, not less—and a waste of moneyThis massive road, often referred to as the “Outer Beltway” or “Western Transportation Corridor,” has been repeatedly rejected because it doesn’t relieve traffic on the Beltway, I-95, I-66 or local roads. The real transportation need in western Prince William and Loudoun counties is for improved east-west connections, including transit.On top of that, the project would siphon money away from projects that citizens of the Commonwealth actually need, like repair, maintenance, and enhancements for our aging bridges, roads, and transit systems, and addressing major bottlenecks within the already built up areas of Northern Virginia and other metro areas.The Commonwealth Transportation Board must vote on where to spend the multi-billion dollar transportation bond package. In fact, it would make traffic worse by opening up thousands more acres to development and feeding more traffic from the west onto gridlocked east-west roads.Construction of an Outer Beltway would encourage increased development in areas which lack the necessary support infrastructure (water, sewer, schools, services, roads, etc.)—making existing congestion, fiscal, and environmental problems worse. Please take a minute to write to the CTB, and ask them not to waste limited funding on a project as destabilizing and wasteful as the Outer Beltway. 106 commentsTweetTags: Outer Beltway, roads, VirginiaMcDonnell transportation plan: Mortgage future, build roads Virginians: Ask your reps to oppose bad highway bills Do “we have to do something” about traffic but not transit? McDonnell trying to take WMATA seats from NoVA ICC Junior: Montrose Parkway. First the administration had the Secretary of Transportation hold out a list of projects that was a key to winning many legislators’ support for more debt and spending. It’s no way to conduct the public’s business.
This outer beltway would destroy the historic landscape on the western boundary of Manassas Battlefield—in the very year we are honoring the 150th anniversary of the First Battle of Manassas. The public list played a key role in getting Delegates and Senators—who face reelection this year—to sign off on the risky borrowing)But during last week’s CTB meeting, the Secretary of Transportation brought up an issue not on the published agenda, asking two of the CTB members, Gary Garzynski and Doug Koelemay, if they had a resolution to offer. After describing a new highway connection that follows the route of the proposed TriCounty Parkway/Western Bypass, they said that the resolution was not quite ready yet, but that they hoped it would be by the next CTB meeting in March.Secretary Connaughton, who used to Chair the Prince William Board of Supervisors, then said, “You guys would never make it on the Prince William County Board of Supervisors; we live for bushwhacking people.”Bushwhacked (ambushed) is exactly how we feel. In fact, it would make traffic worse by opening up thousands more acres to development and feeding more traffic from the west onto gridlocked east-west roads.Construction of an Outer Beltway would encourage increased development in areas which lack the necessary support infrastructure (water, sewer, schools, services, roads, etc.)—making existing congestion, fiscal, and environmental problems worse. Please take a minute to write to the CTB, and ask them not to waste limited funding on a project as destabilizing and wasteful as the Outer Beltway. Then, off the radar screen from the legislature, the media, and the public the administration is maneuvering the revival and addition of one of the most controversial highways in the state. The real transportation need in western Prince William and Loudoun counties is for improved east-west connections, including transit.On top of that, the project would siphon money away from projects that citizens of the Commonwealth actually need, like repair, maintenance, and enhancements for our aging bridges, roads, and transit systems, and addressing major bottlenecks within the already built up areas of Northern Virginia and other metro areas.The Commonwealth Transportation Board must vote on where to spend the multi-billion dollar transportation bond package. Furthermore, this highway would not solve our traffic problems—it would actually make them worse.If you live in Virginia, please email Secretary of Transportation Sean Connaughton and the CTB today telling them you oppose the Tri-County Parkway.If you take action today, we can also let your legislators know ASAP—their session ends tomorrow! The bait and switchIn public, the Governor has offered a list of some 900 road projects that might be funded by the new debt. This list does not include the controversial outer beltway project around DC. It’s no way to conduct the public’s business. 106 commentsTweetTags: Outer Beltway, roads, VirginiaMcDonnell transportation plan: Mortgage future, build roads Virginians: Ask your reps to oppose bad highway bills Do “we have to do something” about traffic but not transit? McDonnell trying to take WMATA seats from NoVA ICC Junior: Montrose Parkway. In fact, the inclusion of the Western Bypass and other outer loop roads was a key factor in the public’s strong rejection of the Northern Virginia sales tax increase in the public referendum of 2002.More traffic, not less—and a waste of moneyThis massive road, often referred to as the “Outer Beltway” or “Western Transportation Corridor,” has been repeatedly rejected because it doesn’t relieve traffic on the Beltway, I-95, I-66 or local roads. First the administration had the Secretary of Transportation hold out a list of projects that was a key to winning many legislators’ support for more debt and spending.
The real transportation need in western Prince William and Loudoun counties is for improved east-west connections, including transit.On top of that, the project would siphon money away from projects that citizens of the Commonwealth actually need, like repair, maintenance, and enhancements for our aging bridges, roads, and transit systems, and addressing major bottlenecks within the already built up areas of Northern Virginia and other metro areas.The Commonwealth Transportation Board must vote on where to spend the multi-billion dollar transportation bond package. First the administration had the Secretary of Transportation hold out a list of projects that was a key to winning many legislators’ support for more debt and spending. It’s no way to conduct the public’s business. In fact, it would make traffic worse by opening up thousands more acres to development and feeding more traffic from the west onto gridlocked east-west roads.Construction of an Outer Beltway would encourage increased development in areas which lack the necessary support infrastructure (water, sewer, schools, services, roads, etc.)—making existing congestion, fiscal, and environmental problems worse. This list does not include the controversial outer beltway project around DC. Then, off the radar screen from the legislature, the media, and the public the administration is maneuvering the revival and addition of one of the most controversial highways in the state. 106 commentsTweetTags: Outer Beltway, roads, VirginiaMcDonnell transportation plan: Mortgage future, build roads Virginians: Ask your reps to oppose bad highway bills Do “we have to do something” about traffic but not transit? McDonnell trying to take WMATA seats from NoVA ICC Junior: Montrose Parkway. In fact, the inclusion of the Western Bypass and other outer loop roads was a key factor in the public’s strong rejection of the Northern Virginia sales tax increase in the public referendum of 2002.More traffic, not less—and a waste of moneyThis massive road, often referred to as the “Outer Beltway” or “Western Transportation Corridor,” has been repeatedly rejected because it doesn’t relieve traffic on the Beltway, I-95, I-66 or local roads. Please take a minute to write to the CTB, and ask them not to waste limited funding on a project as destabilizing and wasteful as the Outer Beltway. After describing a new highway connection that follows the route of the proposed TriCounty Parkway/Western Bypass, they said that the resolution was not quite ready yet, but that they hoped it would be by the next CTB meeting in March.Secretary Connaughton, who used to Chair the Prince William Board of Supervisors, then said, “You guys would never make it on the Prince William County Board of Supervisors; we live for bushwhacking people.”Bushwhacked (ambushed) is exactly how we feel. The public list played a key role in getting Delegates and Senators—who face reelection this year—to sign off on the risky borrowing)But during last week’s CTB meeting, the Secretary of Transportation brought up an issue not on the published agenda, asking two of the CTB members, Gary Garzynski and Doug Koelemay, if they had a resolution to offer. If you take action today, we can also let your legislators know ASAP—their session ends tomorrow! The bait and switchIn public, the Governor has offered a list of some 900 road projects that might be funded by the new debt.
In fact, the inclusion of the Western Bypass and other outer loop roads was a key factor in the public’s strong rejection of the Northern Virginia sales tax increase in the public referendum of 2002.More traffic, not less—and a waste of moneyThis massive road, often referred to as the “Outer Beltway” or “Western Transportation Corridor,” has been repeatedly rejected because it doesn’t relieve traffic on the Beltway, I-95, I-66 or local roads. After describing a new highway connection that follows the route of the proposed TriCounty Parkway/Western Bypass, they said that the resolution was not quite ready yet, but that they hoped it would be by the next CTB meeting in March.Secretary Connaughton, who used to Chair the Prince William Board of Supervisors, then said, “You guys would never make it on the Prince William County Board of Supervisors; we live for bushwhacking people.”Bushwhacked (ambushed) is exactly how we feel. Please take a minute to write to the CTB, and ask them not to waste limited funding on a project as destabilizing and wasteful as the Outer Beltway. In fact, it would make traffic worse by opening up thousands more acres to development and feeding more traffic from the west onto gridlocked east-west roads.Construction of an Outer Beltway would encourage increased development in areas which lack the necessary support infrastructure (water, sewer, schools, services, roads, etc.)—making existing congestion, fiscal, and environmental problems worse. The public list played a key role in getting Delegates and Senators—who face reelection this year—to sign off on the risky borrowing)But during last week’s CTB meeting, the Secretary of Transportation brought up an issue not on the published agenda, asking two of the CTB members, Gary Garzynski and Doug Koelemay, if they had a resolution to offer. In public, the Governor has offered a list of some 900 road projects that might be funded by the new debt. First the administration had the Secretary of Transportation hold out a list of projects that was a key to winning many legislators’ support for more debt and spending. Then, off the radar screen from the legislature, the media, and the public the administration is maneuvering the revival and addition of one of the most controversial highways in the state. This list does not include the controversial outer beltway project around DC. The real transportation need in western Prince William and Loudoun counties is for improved east-west connections, including transit.On top of that, the project would siphon money away from projects that citizens of the Commonwealth actually need, like repair, maintenance, and enhancements for our aging bridges, roads, and transit systems, and addressing major bottlenecks within the already built up areas of Northern Virginia and other metro areas.The Commonwealth Transportation Board must vote on where to spend the multi-billion dollar transportation bond package. 106 commentsTweetTags: Outer Beltway, roads, VirginiaMcDonnell transportation plan: Mortgage future, build roads Virginians: Ask your reps to oppose bad highway bills Do “we have to do something” about traffic but not transit? McDonnell trying to take WMATA seats from NoVA ICC Junior: Montrose Parkway. It’s no way to conduct the public’s business.
The real transportation need in western Prince William and Loudoun counties is for improved east-west connections, including transit.On top of that, the project would siphon money away from projects that citizens of the Commonwealth actually need, like repair, maintenance, and enhancements for our aging bridges, roads, and transit systems, and addressing major bottlenecks within the already built up areas of Northern Virginia and other metro areas.The Commonwealth Transportation Board must vote on where to spend the multi-billion dollar transportation bond package. In fact, it would make traffic worse by opening up thousands more acres to development and feeding more traffic from the west onto gridlocked east-west roads.Construction of an Outer Beltway would encourage increased development in areas which lack the necessary support infrastructure (water, sewer, schools, services, roads, etc.)—making existing congestion, fiscal, and environmental problems worse. 106 commentsTweetTags: Outer Beltway, roads, VirginiaMcDonnell transportation plan: Mortgage future, build roads Virginians: Ask your reps to oppose bad highway bills Do “we have to do something” about traffic but not transit? McDonnell trying to take WMATA seats from NoVA ICC Junior: Montrose Parkway. More traffic, not less—and a waste of moneyThis massive road, often referred to as the “Outer Beltway” or “Western Transportation Corridor,” has been repeatedly rejected because it doesn’t relieve traffic on the Beltway, I-95, I-66 or local roads. Please take a minute to write to the CTB, and ask them not to waste limited funding on a project as destabilizing and wasteful as the Outer Beltway.
Please take a minute to write to the CTB, and ask them not to waste limited funding on a project as destabilizing and wasteful as the Outer Beltway. Construction of an Outer Beltway would encourage increased development in areas which lack the necessary support infrastructure (water, sewer, schools, services, roads, etc.)—making existing congestion, fiscal, and environmental problems worse. 106 commentsTweetTags: Outer Beltway, roads, VirginiaMcDonnell transportation plan: Mortgage future, build roads Virginians: Ask your reps to oppose bad highway bills Do “we have to do something” about traffic but not transit? McDonnell trying to take WMATA seats from NoVA ICC Junior: Montrose Parkway. The real transportation need in western Prince William and Loudoun counties is for improved east-west connections, including transit.On top of that, the project would siphon money away from projects that citizens of the Commonwealth actually need, like repair, maintenance, and enhancements for our aging bridges, roads, and transit systems, and addressing major bottlenecks within the already built up areas of Northern Virginia and other metro areas.The Commonwealth Transportation Board must vote on where to spend the multi-billion dollar transportation bond package.
It's also true that while a tiny percentage of road building and maintenance (5% as calculated on this very blog by someone who initially opposed what I was saying), the subsidy for mass transit is something like 70% . Meaning that if everyone who is now asking the govt for a nickel for ever 95 cents they put in were to suddenly become mass transit users, the government would go broke trying to pay the 70 cent to every dollar subsidy. Especiallay given the fact that the number of folks nowadays NOT relying on the 70 cent giveaways are ten times or more numerous than those dependent on that 70 cents subsidy. I.e., You'd be your own worst enemy if you got what you wished for and we all became mass transit users. We had this discussion on here before, and what you're claiming is backed in fiction and not fact. But that is only a recent anomaly and one that could be remedied by raising the federal gas tax by a very small amount. It's true that currently gas taxes aren't fully covering the cost of road building and maintenance.
But if you realize that the road network shapes development sufficient to fill it up, then building this road is basically a subsidy of development in these areas, nothing more. If you assume everyone just lives where they live and work where they work, then any road seems sensible (cost excluded) because some people do want to drive in that direction.
So well said. And that's precisely what has happened there over the centuries, and because of that there are no traffic problems like here. of which Washington can continue to be its center, but is also 'just one more node.' THAT is smart growth . and not the misguided one being touted by a few unknowing folks who here who think that confining people to 'the District' or to 'the inner beltway' is somehow 'smart'. That there is a need for travel throughout its many nodes . I come from a part of the country much older than here, Southwestern New England. And there aren't any truely 'big' cities, yet you have millions of people living a really 'smartgrowth' life . It's stronger, more flexible, and makes better use of all our resources including our land and rivers and skies. They just don't get it that this is one metro area and not just a city surrounded by bedroom communities. it is to 'a city' what a distributed network is to computers.
What kind of new business will that corridor have? Who will buy those houses they will apparently build? As far as I know, NoVA has no industry and that's the only sector showing any growth nowadays as the “service sector” overhead has reached its limit. One thing I don't understand though.
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